Life is too short. I just stated the facts with no spin. Those are facts. The padron case is on appeal and there is a stay in proceedings at the trial court level. And the judge in the Lopez is hearing a motion for summary judgment and stayed the ex parte hearing on the sanctions. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean it isn't true.
Richard Oliver
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
I am just someone who looks at court websites. U can look yourself. I also paid the 60 bucks for the Lopez filings for the protective order. If anyone wants them I am sure I can send them, I don't think they are copyrighted and there is no danger in distributing the ones I purchased
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
And those are legitimate questions, at least the court thinks so, that in the Lopez case, Lopez asked for sanctions for the same violations. That court in Lopez has stayed their hearing until March for a fuller hearing and to hear Watchtower summary judgement argument in that one as well.
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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?
by The Searcher inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.
it's heading towards $900,000 now..
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Richard Oliver
The proceedings have been stated since Auslgust when the court of appeals accepted the case on appeals because of the sanctions. At question is if Watchtower can force CCJW to turn over their documents since CCJW is not a named party in the case. Also there is a question of what the court of appeals meant when they said in Lopez, third party information can be redacted. The question is can accused, witnesses, elders, Congregation and cities information can be redacted. Initial opening briefs are do in late February
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Baumgartner - Dr. Mark Morehart: State of Washington Appeal Court - aborted use of cell saver machine
by darkspilver infor information:.
court of appeals of the state of washingtondivision iidocket number: 48070-1file date: 01/24/2017.
keisha baumgartner appeals the summary judgment dismissal of her medical malpractice wrongful death claim against anesthesiologist dr. mark morehart and columbia anesthesia group, p.s.
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JeffT:
You are correct the court doesn't care about the little things. But nowhere in this case does this issue come up. The court ruled no standard of care by a reasonable medical professional was violated. The questions that the court answered was, did the doctor violate that standard on two different basis. The court ruled that because the doctor was behind the rest of the surgical staff that he could not reasonable overrule the announcement of the operator when the operator said that the machine was contaminated. The second was that the plaintiff's expert could not prove that a reasonable physician would order a cell salvage machine on standby based on this type of surgery. The court ruled that based on the standard of practice for a laparoscopic surgery such as this, that the device would only be needed if the field of view was obstructed so much that it required the installation of the machine.
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Interesting comment at circuit assembly demo homosexuality
by poopie indemo talking about view of girls comeing out as lesbian.
comment was we respect lesbians.
but i was thinking some do not respect a person enough to speak to them at kh if there df wow..
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Richard Oliver
As a gay man, I don't find anything wrong with this. It is their view that gay people cannot be a witnesses, but they don't harass gay people or actively fight against gay causes. They accept that people will be gay and if they want to practice it that is their right, but it is also their right to associate with who they want too or not.
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January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh
by wifibandit injanuary 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
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Richard Oliver
In my statement too u what did I say that was wrong? Please inform me.
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January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh
by wifibandit injanuary 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
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Richard Oliver
Court of appeals accepting the case
Case is placed on hold by staying the proceedings.
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January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh
by wifibandit injanuary 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
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Richard Oliver
Data dog. How am I dumb please enlighten me
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January 19, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS IN WALES Re: Prerecorded Memorial and Special Talk 2017 - Welsh
by wifibandit injanuary 19, 2017 to all bodies of elders in wales re: prerecorded memorial and special talk 2017 - welsh.
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Richard Oliver
Data dog. U can't just throw that number of 4000 a day number without understanding the facts behind the number. The court of appeals in the Lopez case rules that Watchtower had to present those records but can redact the personal information of third party individuals. Both parties agreed that the victims information should be redacted and even zalkin agreed that the accused should be redacted, at least at one point. The debate is what did the court of appeals mean when they wrote third party, does that include witnesses, congregation and elders have a right to privacy. Even zalkin admits both in court document and to bundy he received documents, though he says they were too heavily redacted. Even though he says he just want to use the information for statistical data, but would not accept a numbering a pseudonym system.
The court of appeals accepted the appeal on 8/26 so they put a stay on the sactions till a ruling is made. So no watchtower does not owe what some people say they do. The sanctions would go up to that point and if the appeals court agrees with the plaintiff in the pardon case.